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Those are not ‘crappy browsers’. If we call it “Browser” it should be browser, isn’t it? It should brows pages. It was never intended to be overweighted virtal machine and not a good one by the way.

Past 8 years or so Youtube has nothing really more to offer then it was offering back then. The only new things it offers for me is overweighted dumb slow shit that fails to perform what it was perfectly doing 8 years ago, and all those slowness added for no particular reason that I could appreciate.

All of this ‘comfort’ is getting on the way or doesn’t work at all. Perfectly capable IPad Pro now is struggling to load even Youtube.

Almost every site I visit is bloated with idiotic unnecessary things that do not not even work properly.

And once you see some new idiocy appearing on some big site, the first thing you think is :‘oh no’ because you can be pretty sure that every “designer” would copy this bullshit and it will appear on every site very soon for no reason. If that is not a dumb design by definition then what is? I would not call it even design. Those are layers and layers of garbage piled on top of each other and at this point when I see simple HTML I just wish to thank the author for lack of so called “design”.

It’s not crappy browsers - It’s crappy sites overloaded with useless features. I didn’t see One big site lately that did become better ... not one! I wish to see one, show me one please. I wish to be mistaken there but I think it simply doesn’t exist.



Oh, YouTube. I'll never understand how they made it such that when you open your subscriptions page it first loads the list of videos, and then, 5 seconds later, shows their durations. Or how the player UI is unresponsive for several seconds after you open a video. That took some special talent apparently.


>you open your subscriptions page it first loads the list of videos, and then, 5 seconds later, shows their durations

Every time this happens I have this horrible feeling that they just removed showing video durations entirely. Which wouldn't even surprise me, I could imagine them doing some stupid A/B testing to discover they got more people clicking around when durations were removed.

But regardless, it's insane that one of the biggest sources of internet traffic on the planet is software that can render a bunch of images (thumbnails) but it takes several seconds to display a few characters of text on them. I don't know if they're grabbing durations as a separate API call, or if that's just how slow their JavaScript is. Either way, it's pathetic.


> It was never intended to be overweighted virtal machine and not a good one by the way.

Citation needed. It's been two and a half decades since people started using the web as more than just a delivery mechanism for text and images.


As an example of this, forms were in the HTML 2 spec of 1995, and you’ll recognise every last part of it as still working exactly the same way: https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_8.html. (<input type=image> has fallen into disuse and <input type=reset> is rare and generally discouraged, but all the rest is still universally used.)


longstanding use != intended use


> It's been two and a half decades since people started using the web as more than just a delivery mechanism for text and images.

I still do (mostly)




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