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This is a pretty uninformed take. There are all sorts of projects made in crypto: collectibles, music, art, gaming, loans, mortgages, debit cards with rewards, social media, wifi networks, anti-fraud, food security, etc. And many projects have a large donation component to them.


One day it's a project start-up with A Whitepaper™, the next day it's just the word "penis": https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/7tn6ld/a_shitcoin...

"Anti-fraud" is especially funny considering how fraudulent the whole cryptocurrency space is.

But anyway, to quote Nicholas Weaver (https://youtu.be/xCHab0dNnj4?t=1667), "[the people proposing those projects] are never actually even able to even articulate what the hard problems are, like what data, what formats, what honesty, who's adding the data, what enforcement — shoving garbage into an append-only ledger doesn't solve your problems!"


Says the people who are downstream of the founders/traders of crypto but upstream the final bag holders.

The game is - the more people/demand who come into the place, the greater the asset value. Earliest in benefit the most.

Sure there are benefits from crypto (but those are mostly a distraction for its core use case and a way for murky individuals to validate investments to the real bagholders) but the costs and the model works in that you keep having to find more people to buy into the asset class in order to validate the most recent purchases.

In traditional equities - you get some kind of return on your investment through traditionally dividends/share buybacks from profits generated from the business - right now its a lot of capital appreciation not to dissimilar to what I described above (i.e. TINA)


I was talking about using products, not investing in some coin. So the bag holder argument doesn’t apply here, these are people directly getting services.

But many coins have mechanisms to give dividends in the form of their coin, which have liquid trading markets. You can say they’re being propped up by the next buyer, but many of these are used by the product as “gas” for transactions, creating a real use based demand economy. I’ll readily admit that speculation has massively inflated these markets past their fundamental value, but that’s not unique to cryptocurrency.


What other currencies do people trust that have been "massively inflated" by speculation?


> Says the people who are downstream of the founders/traders of crypto but upstream the final bag holders.

Look man, cryptocurrency isn't some kind of pyramid scheme! It's just a bisected cube!


All of which don't "benefit anyone but the people that invented it and the savvy traders trying to make a buck". He got it right the first time, and you are just falling for the dishonest rationalisations of crypto scammers.


Products don’t benefit the user? Honestly, what is your stance here? It seems like your stance is “crypto bad”. Yes, people who made a product benefited, as did investors. How is that dishonest? Audius has 5m monthly users, please explain why 5 million people use something they get no benefit from.


Looking at the Audius website, I see no reason that service needs blockchain to function, which brings us to the final function of blockchain: Blockchain as a marketing gimmick.




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