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Ever since the framework came out, I've been half-hoping for my laptop to die. It really is like someone made exactly the laptop I want, but I really don't need a new laptop at this point, and I tend to use laptops for 5-10 years. Here's hoping that Framework is still around say 2-7 years from now!


I am in a similar situation. I would love to purchase one, but my current laptop works fine and I don't need to make more e-waste due to cool new shiny thing! But they will stay on my mind.


Which is why I wish they have some crowdfunding or crowd lending feature. I dont need a laptop now. But if they need cash flow I am willing to lend them money for practically low / zero interest rate.

But from the blog post looks like they are doing extremely fine.


I suppose that's a disadvantage peculiar to manufacturers targeting reduced waste: their customers aren't going to upgrade as often...


As someone whose first task on buying a new laptop every ten years is to install the latest Ubuntu LTS version, a company which makes machines that work perfectly with Ubuntu and have a life of around 10 years will have me as a customer for life.


If you are a 38 year old man, actuarial tables suggest that this translates to 4 more laptops over 40 years[1]. I believe their point is that this does not make you a particularly valuable customer.

I would argue that there is value in a brand that consumers trust to last for a long time. For example, if Framework launched a printer, you might be tempted to pay a premium for a product you knew was high quality and repairable.

[1] https://www.annuityadvantage.com/resources/life-expectancy-t...


Exactly; I have friends who buy a new laptop every other year; they are not concerned with longevity or upgradability so the framework could only attract them through increased customization options, which is a harder sell.

If they buy from Dell, and I buy from Framework, Dell sells 5x as many laptops.


Scary: how do you know I am a 38 year old man? :)


I can't tell if you are serious or joking. If you are a 38 year old man, I apologize for the concern.

I wanted a life expectancy that was evenly divisible by ten. A 42 year old woman and a 38 year old man both have a life expectancy of 40 years based on the actuarial table I found. I played the odds and chose a 38 year old man for the example.




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